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Joined: 7/15/2008
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Ed T wrote:
After 6 months of debate and procrastination I ordered a Qui-Ya about a month ago...
I meant to get back to you after Mark scared you off with the "qui-Ya isn't big enough" talk. Glad you pulled the trigger anyway, Considering the decades of experience behind your opinion, I very much appreciate that you're liking this pack.
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Joined: 2/21/2012
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The qui-Ya looks like a great pack--I spent a happy hour yesterday bending stays and shock-cording G-hooks--but curiosity has gotten the better of me: what's the function of the tabs on either side of the metal pulley (where the two-inch strap from the harness passes through)?
At any rate, a "Ute" with shoulder lift has been on my wish list for a long time now--although I admit y'all did set off a kind of mid-life crisis when I realized that, you know, this is the last big pack I'm likely to use in my lifetime.;)
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Joined: 7/15/2008
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CreationBear wrote:
curiosity has gotten the better of me: what's the function of the tabs on either side of the metal pulley (where the two-inch strap from the harness passes through)?
Those are backups in case the center pulley breaks or pulls out. You can use a couple of G-hook terminated straps (the delta straps that came with your Prairie Belt) to re-attach your harness.
We are fortunate in this matter that your conduct will be your marker and, thus, your reputation. The conduct of others on this forum has been, and will continue to be, their marker, and thus, their reputation. In the west, a person invests in one's reputation carefully. - 112Papa
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Joined: 2/21/2012
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Got you--that's a great bit of redundancy.
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Joined: 2/19/2018
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Does this pack have the ability to pack meat between the bag and frame (Meat shelf)? I would like to be able to pack in with all of my gear for a 10 day hunt, and then drop of most at base camp. Then I would run the pack in a day pack mode. I would like to put the heavy weight (Meat) close to my body, and run the day pack which should be much lighter away from the frame.
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Joined: 1/4/2010
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Personally, I recommend lining the pack with a contractor bag and then putting the boned out meat in it, but yes it will work great the way you are describing.
Jump to about 7:15 (although the whole video is awesome) for two quarters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5We4l1lpk8
Or jump to about 5:03 (although again the whole video is worth it) for an approximately 300lb rock in that configuration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7ph-_Dra0Q
Co-Owner Hill People Gear
"If anything goes wrong it will be a fight to the end, if your training is good enough, survival is there; if not nature claims its foreit." - Dougal Haston
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Joined: 2/19/2018
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Thank you for the videos. This helps me to see exactly how the pack works.
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Joined: 3/5/2015
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bhowren wrote:
Does this pack have the ability to pack meat between the bag and frame (Meat shelf)? I would like to be able to pack in with all of my gear for a 10 day hunt, and then drop of most at base camp. Then I would run the pack in a day pack mode. I would like to put the heavy weight (Meat) close to my body, and run the day pack which should be much lighter away from the frame.
Between bag and "frame", no. Not like a meat shelf that you would find on some other brands of packs. The HPG system for this relies on incorporating an outer pocket (Pals Pocket or Connor Pocket) to compress the load between the bag and the pocket. Using in day hunt mode you could keep the main bag compressed and put your gear in the pocket, then the meat would basically be between the pocket and your back, which is pretty much what is shown in the video's provided. But on your eventual trip out with all your camp gear you would have the meat between your main bag and your compression pocket. The main bag would be between your back (frame) and the meat. Not saying that this method doesn't work extremely well, just pointing this out in case you were still needing that clarification.
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Joined: 2/19/2018
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zacht wrote:
bhowren wrote:
Does this pack have the ability to pack meat between the bag and frame (Meat shelf)? I would like to be able to pack in with all of my gear for a 10 day hunt, and then drop of most at base camp. Then I would run the pack in a day pack mode. I would like to put the heavy weight (Meat) close to my body, and run the day pack which should be much lighter away from the frame.
Between bag and "frame", no. Not like a meat shelf that you would find on some other brands of packs. The HPG system for this relies on incorporating an outer pocket (Pals Pocket or Connor Pocket) to compress the load between the bag and the pocket. Using in day hunt mode you could keep the main bag compressed and put your gear in the pocket, then the meat would basically be between the pocket and your back, which is pretty much what is shown in the video's provided. But on your eventual trip out with all your camp gear you would have the meat between your main bag and your compression pocket. The main bag would be between your back (frame) and the meat. Not saying that this method doesn't work extremely well, just pointing this out in case you were still needing that clarification.
Thank you for the clarification!
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Joined: 5/10/2018
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New customer with a qui-Ya and Prairie Belt on the way as initial purchases. I have been listed for notification on a PALS Pocket and OKBV2 in Blaze Orange, apparently scheduled for Fall. I am interested in hearing from anyone who will share their most often used accessories, HPG or not, and if different from your most used items what is the favorite addition you added to the pack or belt . Appreciate the input in advance.
Thanks!
Lindsay
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Joined: 1/28/2018
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I'm looking for pack for multiday hikes, and now I'm choosing between Ute+pocket+sack and qui-Ya packs. I have couple of questions. I hope this is right place to ask them.
If you're a taller guy, the extra 4" of lifter height will be a big bump in comfort over the Ute.
I'm wondering what thed difference in comfort would be for 5'11" guy
On the other hand, the Ute is a better generalist. ..., good for international travel
What makes it good for internation travel?
What are the volumes of palspocket and tarapocket? I don't see it specifications
Thanks in advance.
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Joined: 6/20/2017
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The Tarahumara is 1000ci/16L, so the pocket is about the same. I did a comparison on the three available (Tara, Pals, and Aston, at the time) and the Tara was the largest and the most affordable (maybe my math was wrong, but I don't think so). I coupled mine to my Umlindi and haven't regretted it at all. If you do get a Tarapocket, though, I recomment the Tara Insert. Gear tends to bunch at the bottom of the pocket otherwise, gravity being what it is. HTH
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