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11/3/2017 3:44 PM
 

Pack looks good. The panel looks very useful and the front slot pocket will be handy. Excited for the solid color Coyote. Have a few questions:

-- the stated weight is 4.4 lbs, how much of that weight are the aluminum stays? Are they removeable from the framesheet?

-- Is front Aston Panel removeable and will it eventually be available separately -- will need these for my other packs?

-- Coyote is a color choice (Bravo!), does this mean that there will be Coyote Recon Belts and Coyote Prairie Belts?

Thanks in advance.

 
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11/3/2017 4:24 PM
 
Agreed, super excited about this pack! Looks like the perfect long day trip hunting pack that I've been wanting for some time. Also excited to see how it looks in coyote.

One question, purely just a curiosity point, why the dual attachment points on this pack rather than the single attachment point? Is there a perceived benefit to this?
 
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11/3/2017 5:56 PM
 

- stays are removable and weigh 8oz for the pair. weight would not be a good reason to remove them, as doing so would increase the felt weight of the load by several times what the stays weigh.

- yes, the Aston Panel is removable and will eventually be available separately ($55, IIRC)

- not doing coyote belts: 1) the rationale behind coyote is for folks who need them as assault packs and wouldn't be using belts 2) ranger matches OK, and by the time you put coyote pouches on the belt it's color is pretty much irrelevant. Things might be breaking free on the "brown belts" front next year though.

- we tested both single and dual harness attachments. single is a little better on a belted pack, dual is a little better beltless. we decided to err on the side of beltless for this pack and probably should do the same for the AH as well (no plans at the moment).


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11/3/2017 7:35 PM
 
I will end up with one of these down the road because it solves a couple small issues I have with my current Aston House to packing in the hills. Mainly the water bottle pockets. My current AH is serving as a tool bag for work and doing a fantasy job of it. Any chance a guy could get a hold of the dual stay frame sheet for a current Aston House?
 
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11/4/2017 3:30 PM
 
Will the PALS pocket fit nicely on the slot pocket pals cuts (with malice clips). would be a nice extra panel compartment if it did not cover the slot pocket zipper
 
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11/8/2017 4:06 PM
 
I love the layout of this pack. It's as if my old bag had a love child with my Umlindi. I liked the minimalist organization and the panel loading of the old bag, but the shoulder straps didn't work for me. The Umlindi is super comfortable, but I miss the panel loading aspect. Thanks Hill brothers.
 
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11/9/2017 4:11 AM
 
I know suggestions are lame, but that panel, without the molles cut (or maybe just less of it) and with a mesh panel on one side for stuffing wet stuff or a hoodie) would be awesome.
 
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11/9/2017 10:18 AM
 
It's hard to see from the video and pictures, but will this AH also have the handle on the side?  I loved that aspect of the AH to carry and grab.
 
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11/9/2017 11:58 AM
 
Yes it has a handle on the side

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11/12/2017 7:52 AM
 
Any update on ETA? Look forward to seeing the other color ways as well.
 
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11/14/2017 6:21 AM
 
Hi! Is the framesheet of AHBC compatible with Connor pack? The plan is to use AHBC as a main bag and have frameless Connor packed somewhere, could I then take a framesheet from AHBC and insert it to Connor to use it as a day-pack?
 
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11/14/2017 1:13 PM
 
sliding_shade wrote:
Hi! Is the framesheet of AHBC compatible with Connor pack?
 
It's the same size as the Connor framesheet, but I think it would be nearly impossible with the stay layout and how a Connor framesheet inserts to get it in there. Your use case doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me though... why wouldn't you just compress the AHBC if you wanted something smaller?

 


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11/29/2017 6:56 AM
 

In page for buy AHBC has the option for substitute Aston Pocket (+$65.00).

So, for more $65.00 your change AHBC panel for Aston Pocket or your buy a Aston Pocket plus AHBC panel?

And, Is possible docked AHBC to Qui-YA? Will it works fine? I think in this for long stays in Camping.

Thanks.

 
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11/29/2017 9:56 AM
 
For $65 more, we will change the panel for the pocket. You will get the pocket. You will not get the panel.

The largest pocket / pack that will go nicely on the back of a qui-Ya is the Connor. And that gives you a lot of capacity. You do not want to put an AHBC on the back of any other pack.

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11/29/2017 11:24 AM
 
is the 2016 buttpack viable on the Aston house BC? I'm planning on getting the pack with compression panel, then purchasing the Aston pocket to have also for other configurations, but was curious about the 2016 for some added capacity, and for an excuse to buy the 2016 at some point also

Thanks
 
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11/30/2017 12:26 PM
 
under the top straps should work out OK, as long as the main pack is mostly loaded.

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12/1/2017 9:57 AM
 
Does the panel loading aspect of this pack reduce the potential for mid range (20-60 pound) load hauling, as compared to say the top loading feature of the Umlindi? Given the taller frame, dual stays, and load lifters I would assume this to carry weight weight better than a Lindi, but I know you've always viewed zippers as a possible point of failure so curious to hear your thoughts on this.
 
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12/1/2017 10:38 AM
 
The suspension is definitely more comfortable than the Umlindi for heavier loads. Probably above 30lbs you'd notice the difference (assuming belted use in both cases). The zippers are certainly points of failure, but are also fully protected by the compression panel. Both as a backup in case of blowout and also to ease the strain on the zippers under use. Plus the main zippers are beefy #10s. I simply don't like panel loaders, but for those who do this is a fine and capable backcountry pack.

I do really like this footprint and suspension setup for an all around pack and you're going to see a top loader in this size so I've got something I want to carry. Right now I'm a Connor / Umlindi with belt / qui-Ya guy. The Umlindi is a tad limiting in volume for winter day trips, but still doable. Something the size of the AHBC overlaps Ute capabilities nicely to really cover that winter day trip / summit pack / summer overnight role well. At the same time, it is literally the same footprint as the Connor and if built correctly (like the AHBC) can be compressed down to cover an urban or "stroll through the state park nature trail" style shoulder only load.

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12/1/2017 11:20 AM
 
Good info, thanks Evan. Pretty excited to try this one out.

 
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12/1/2017 1:24 PM
 

Hi All,

Despite the 'BC' moniker for this pack, I think it's quite well suited to urban use - perhaps even more so than the original Aston House. I recently picked up an AHBC for my wife as a replacement for her cheapo backpack. She works in healthcare at a large medical center in a big NE city and splits her days between different clinics (~3/4 mi apart), and she walks to/from work (another ~1.5 mi each way). Given that she carries a laptop, books, papers, lunch, snacks, fluids, tools, etc., her daily trek isn't all that different from backpacking! She'll walk about 4 miles per day with a 20-25lb load (yes..she's a bit of a pack rat).

Hence, there was a distinct opportunity to upgrade her to a pack with good load carriage - hence HPG. After examining the AH vs. AHBC very closely, I landed on the BC for a few reasons:

- Wand pockets: needed a water bottle + hot fluid thermos on the exterior of the pack, and the streamlied, integrated wand pockets beat out the unwieldy alternative of having 2 bottle holsters mounted to the exterior

- Lack of PALS cut fabric on exterior: works better in an urban work environment

- Single deep pocket vs. two shallower pockets. A fully packed, insulated, lunch bag, plus laptop, books, papers, easily eats up pack depth.

- PALS/velcro panel on the rear vs. middle of pack. This enables mounting of velcro-backed pouches for heavy stuff (laptop, books, papers) closest to suspensions system.

I'll post an update with the configured pack once I've sorted out the details. Cheers!

 
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