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5/10/2012 5:04 PM
 

I am wondering what categories everyone breaks their gear down into when they are making their pack list to head into the back country.

Here's how I go

  • Sleep System
  • Cooking System
  • Food
  • Water
  • Electronics
  • Navigation
  • Optics
  • Rifle Kit
  • Kill Kit
  • Clothing
  • Pack System
  • Hygiene Kit
  • Survival Kit
  • Last Aid Kit
  • Camp Comforts
  • Personal Kit

Does anyone elses look similiar? Let's hear yours.

 
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5/11/2012 10:58 AM
 

For me it really depends on the extent of the trip and the amount of stuff I figure to bring. Short trip it would be 1. food/cooking  2. everything else. Long trip 1. food/cooking 2. clothes 3. gear which depending on the type of trip (hunting, fishing, general) I would then break off a couple of extra units like hunting specific stuff or fishing specific stuff. Really all depends on how much I have to keep track of and how much is covered by stuff I always have packed (first aid, edc, etc.). I will compile any list over a week or so then amass everything on the list then see if anything appears missing and go from there.

 
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5/11/2012 1:14 PM
 

I always like to keep a pack ready to go for extended trips. I don't think an over nighter or even a weekender warrants a gear check list. However, I have found that I plan for a 3-4 day trip and end up staying 7-10 days. So I like having all of my gear packed ready for the unkown.

 
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10/28/2012 10:20 PM
 

Before I retired we used the following planning categories for gearing up agency staff disaster deployments under EMAC.

Cooking Fire, Fuel and Lighting

Batteries, charging and power distribution

Bags, Boxes and Containers

Cooking and Water Storage

Food and Water Supply / Purification

Signalling and Communications

Navigation

Hygiene, Health and Medical

Tools and Sharps

Safety and PPE

Search and Rescue Equipment

Shelter and Clothing

Public Health, Engineering, Fire Fighting, or Law Enforcement Mission Specifics

Multi-purpose, Personal Gear and Misc.

A  simlar detailed listing, not sure how the Excell spreadsheet will import, but here is a try:

"Level

1" - "Compact Personal Survival Kit" contents may either be dispersed in BDU pockets, 5.11 gear vest or in belt pouch

 

"Level

2" - "Grab & Go Survival Ruck" supplements Level 1 equipment, carried in internal frame rucksack

 

 

 

"Level

3" - "Evacuation Bag" supplements Levels 1 & 2 extra clothing, tools, food, expendables, aviator's kit bag stowed in vehicle

 

References:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Build the Perfect Survival Kit

, John D. McCann, ISBN: 0-87349-967-0, KP Books, Iola, WI 54990, 800-258-0929

 

 

 

Six Ways In and Twelve Ways Out

, George Jasper, USRSOG, 4600 N. Hardesty, Kanas City, MO 64117 http://www.usrsog.org/manu.htm

 

 

98.6 Degrees - The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive, Cody Lundin, Gibbs-Smith Publishers P.O. Box 667, Layton, UT 84041, www.gibbs-smith.com, 800-835-4993

Vendors:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A

Brigade Quartermasters, 1025 Cobb International Drive, NW, Kennesaw, GA 30152, 800-338-4327 www.actiongear.com

 

 

 

B

Galls, Inc. 2680 Palumbo Drive, Lexington, KY 40509-1000, 800-477-7766 www.galls.com

 

 

 

C

Best Glide Aviation Survival Equipment, Inc. 109 East Ward, Robinson, TX 76706, 888-834-9971 www.bestglide.com

 

CATEGORY▼

 

 

Survival Kit Component Selection

 

 

 

Fire&Light

Level

Vendor

StockNo

Description

Price

Rec.Qty.

Comments

 

2,3

C

 

Streamlight ProPolymer 4AA LED Flashlight

24.95

2

 

 

1, 2

A

PML98(11)

Photon Microlight II, Wht.

12.99

2

or X-Light

 

1,2

C

 

Photon X-light

6.95

2

or Microlight II

 

1

A

ILT3(11)

Geber Infinity Ultra TaskLight AA Wht

18.99

1

Original Mil-CMG is better

 

1

A

MAG787

Doan Machinery Magnesium Fire Starting Tool

6.99

1

NSN 5120-99-471-3046

 

2,3

A

EC22

22 hour survival candle

5.99

4

or Nuwick

 

2,3

C

 

Nuwick 44 Hour Candle

6.95

2

or 120 hour

 

2

C

 

Nuwick 120 Hour Candle

8.55

1

or 44 hour

 

1,2,3

 

 

Butane Lighter, BIC Brand or Equiv

0.99

3

Hardware store

 

1,2,3

A

SA30432

NATO Likeboat Matches 3 pk.

7.99

3

NSN 5120-99-471-3046

 

1

A

SSL100

Sparklite Fire Starter

6.99

1

NSN 1680-01-233-0061

 

1,2,3

A

STQ101

Tinder Quick 10 pk.

1.99

3

or Wet Fire

 

1,2,3

C

 

Wet fire tinder 8 pk.

5.25

3

or Tinder Quick

 

2,3

A

MSC51

Tommy Cooker Solid Fuel 12 pk.

5.99

4

or Esbit

 

2,3

C

 

Esbit Solid Fuel Tabs 12 pk.

4.95

4

or Tommy Cooker

 

1,2

 

 

Bic adjustable flame butane lighter, disposable

0.99

2

everyday flame saves matches

Bags&Containers

1

A

M107(03)

Side Kick Pouch, Small, blk.

9.99

1

for personal survival kit

 

2

A

M109(03)

Side Kick Pouch, Medium, blk.

11.99

2

organize level 2 contents

 

2

A

BOB20(06)

BugOut Gear Bag

69.99

1

carry level 2 contents

 

3

A

FKB39(12)

Aviators Flight Kit Bag

24.99

1

carry level 3 contents

 

2,3

A

PMB8003

Pack Mate Storage Bags 3 pk.

14.99

2

large, for clothing etc.

 

3

A

CSS303

Compression Sack

20.99

1

for bedding

 

2,3

C

 

4 pk. Asst. ALOKSAK Element Proof Bags

9.99

2

small for first aid items

 

2

B

#X-BG211

BDU Pocket Pouch

9.99

1

for personal survival kit

 

2,3

 

 

freezer bags, ZipLok 1 gallon

 

6

grocery store

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cooking Water Storage

3

A

PCQ87(06)

2 qt. water bladder

4.99

2

 

 

3

A

CCR2(06)

cover for 2 qt. water bladder

14.99

2

 

 

2

A

PCQ82

canteen, 1 qt.

1.99

2

 

 

2

A

CCR82(06)

LC-2 cover for canteen

8.99

2

 

 

2

A

PCQ83

Canteen cup

19.99

1

 

 

2

A

CCS288

Canteen cup warming stand

4.99

1

 

 

3

A

GWC25(06)

Water can, 10L

18.99

2

 

 

3

A

BWB312

Wash basin, collapsable

8.99

1

 

 

2

 

 

stainless steel spoon or "Spork"

 

1

plastic NG for moving fire coals

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Navigation

1

A

SCC50

Suunto Clipper survival compass

10.99

1

place on watchband

 

2

A

SCW900

Suunto M9 wrist sighting compass

21.99

1

 

 

2

 

 

24000 scale topo map of area of operations

 

 

USGS

 

2

 

 

official state DOT highway map

 

 

State DOT

 

3

 

 

agency supplied GPS and software

 

 

 

Multipurpose&Misc.

2,3

A

GT01(16)

Gear Identification Tags 3 pk.

9.99

1

Level 2, 3 and Med bags

 

2,3

A

MCN02

Microfiber Towel

24.99

2

 

 

2,3

A

RAP50(02)

550# test parachure cord, 50 ft., Army green

4.99

2

or Int. Orange-Best Glide

 

2,3

C

 

550# test parachute cord - Int.Orange 100 ft.

10.95

1

MIL-C-5040H TYPE 3

 

3

 

 

"mule tape" flatline, tubular nylon, 3/4", 50 feet

 

1

slings and hoists

 

3

 

 

snap links

 

3

 

 

2

C

 

Fresnel lens magnifier, fire starter, etc,

1.01

1

 

 

2,3

 

 

Safety pins assorted sizes, 12

 

 

hardware store

 

2,3

 

 

cable ties, assorted sizes, 100

 

 

hardware store

 

2,3

 

 

24 pk. AA alkaline batteries

 

2

hardware store

 

2

C

 

Gear Aid Backpacker Sewing Kit Deluxe

6.95

1

 

 

2,3

 

 

Duct tape

 

 

hardware store

 

2,3

 

 

Scotch Super 33 electrical tape

 

 

hardware store

 

2,3

 

 

Bandannas, bright color, "dew rag" as cravats, etc

2

 

Signalling&Comms

1

A

MES31

Starflash Sig. Mirror

8.99

1

or BCB

 

1

C

 

BCB Signal Mirror

6.95

1

NSN: 6350-99-613-9818

 

1

A

SMC203

Signal Mirror Pouch

5.99

1

 

 

1

A

FOX300

Fox 40 Whistle

5.99

1

 

 

2

C

 

VS-17 Panel Marker

8.85

1

NSN 8345 00 174 6865

 

2,3

A

RRP964(06)

Waterproof 4x6 Hip Pocket Notebook

5.99

2

 

 

2,3

A

PEN197(03)

NATO All weather pen

9.99

2

NSN: 7520-01-498-1876.

 

2,3

C

 

NATO All weather pen

9.99

2

alt. vendor

 

2,3

 

 

Flagging tape, Int. Orange or Lime Green

 

2

hardware store

 

2,3

 

 

Sharpie waterproof markers

 

2

office supply store

 

1

 

 

Sangean DT-400W AM/FM/Wx Pocket Radio

 

http://shop.npr.org/product/show/44088

 

1

 

 

Personal cell phone capable of SMS msg.

 

 

 

 

2

 

 

Amateur 2m band, Marine VHF or FRS/GMRS

 

 

 

3

 

 

HF-SSB, 100 ft. coax, antenna, coupler, deep cycle battery, charger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tools&Sharps

1

A

SA3181

SAS wire survival saw

6.99

1

NSN: 5110-99-565-2549

 

1

C

 

BCB Commando Saw

8.25

1

or SAS

 

2

A

AFK313

Aircrew survival knife

34.99

1

NSN 7340-00-098-4327

 

2

C

 

Air Force Survival Knife #499

35.95

1

Alt. vendor

 

3

A

GFS03

Gerber Field Spade

37.99

1

NSN 5120-01-476-7556

 

3

C

 

Gerber Field Spade

39.95

1

Alt. vendor

 

2

C

 

Folding Stainless Steel Hand Trowell

16.95

1

 

 

1,2

C

 

Derma-Safe Knife, folding, utility, razor

1.95

2

NSN 6515-01-363-1212

 

1

C

 

Victorinox Soldier Knife

23.95

1

or Mil-K-818

 

3

C

 

Woodman's Pal #481 cordura sheath + stone

71.9

1

 

 

3

*

7947

Fiskars Woodzig Pruning Saw, folding 10"

15.99

 

*source below

http://www.fiskars.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10101&categoryId=10263&productId=10521

 

2

B

KN319

Multi-tool, Leatherman "Kick" or similar

39.99

1

 

 

2

 

 

U-Dig-It small folding steel trowel

19.99

1

Outdoor store, REI, etc.

 

3

 

011S

Snow & Kneeley 011S kindling axe or similar

39.99

1

hardware store

 

3

 

6704

Nicholson 06704 8" axe file

8.99

1

hardware store

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Water&FoodGathering

2

A

 

Survival Filter Straw

26.99

1

or BCB

 

2

C

 

BCB Water Purifying Straw

15.95

1

NSN: 4610-99-440-5751

 

3

A

AOW100

Stabilized Oxygen Purification

18.99

1

 

 

2,3

A

CSD524

Seven Oceans Survival Ration case 24

74

1

or Mainstay

 

2,3

C

 

Mainstay 1200 Emergency Ration case 20

79.95

1

or Seven Oceans

 

2

C

FG1179

Emergency Fishing Kit

7.49

1

 

 

2

C

 

Military Speedhook

9.95

1

NSN 4220-01-379-5598

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Health&Medical

2

A

 

Micropur Water Purification Tablets

13.95

1

 

 

2

A

 

Emergency Bandage - Military

6.25

2

NSN 6510-01-492-2275

 

2

C

 

Adventure Medical Trail Medical Kit

19.95

1

 

 

2

A

 

QuikClot ACS®

29.95

1

NSN 6510-01-534-2579

 

 

 

BSP1484

Sawyer Sunblock with Insect repellant

6.99

1

 

 

 

 

BSP652

Pemethrin clothing treatment

5.99

2

 

 

2

C

APRO2

Advanced Pain Relief liquid

8.99

1

 

 

1

C

SGT01

Sliver gripper

6.99

1

 

 

3

 

 

Liquid soap

 

 

grocery store

 

3

 

 

Baby wipes

 

 

grocery store

 

3

A

GBP37

Gold Bond foot powder

3.99

1

 

 

3

B

#X-TK019

DynaMed Compact First Responder Kit

89.99

1

 

 

3

B

#X-IC852

SafeTec Decontamination Gel 16 oz.

6.99

1

 

 

3

B

#XSI783

SAM Splint Combo Kit

21.99

1

 

 

2

 

 

traige (flagging) tape, yellow, red, 1 roll each

 

2

hardware store

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shelter&Clothing

1

 

 

Large trash bags or 55-gal. drum liners

 

2

emergency shelter

 

2

C

WS1089

Thermo-Lite 2 bivvy sack

25.95

1

 

 

1,2

C

 

Heatsheet® Two Person Survival Blanket

4.25

2

 

 

2

A

PON3(83)

Mil. Poncho liner

49.99

1

 

 

2

A

PONZ01

Military poncho

39.99

1

 

 

3

A

RS01(03)

Coolmax Duty Socks

3.99

4

 

 

3

A

RRF9(03)

5.11 insoles

9.99

2

 

 

3

A

CON05

Converse 4" cross trainer, off duty

69.99

1

or your preferred casual

 

3

A

CB103

NBN leather combat boot Mil-B-44152C

99.99

1

 

 

3

A

SOK937

Military boot socks 3 pk.

7.98

1

 

 

3

A

XGF05

Polarmax XGO F/R cold weather boxers

29.99

2

 

 

3

A

RAA11(03)

5.11 Trainer belt

29.99

1

 

 

3

A

TSU03(06)

Tru-Spec BDU 4-pocket shorts hot weather

21.99

2

 

 

3

A

RRU21(03)

5.11 Tactical holster under shirt

39.99

1

 

 

3

A

PAB01(03)

Polarmax Acclimate briefs hot weather

10.99

4

 

 

3

A

BQT12(06)

Mil wicking undershirt hot weather

8.99

4

 

 

3

A

RRVO1(06)

5.11 Tactical Gear Vest

64.99

1

 

 

3

A

C70292

Max Tac flame resistant watch cap

8.99

1

 

 

3

B

#X-UA607

Polarmax XGO F/R cold weather undershirt

39.99

1

 

 

3

B

#X-UA606

Polarmax XGO F/R cold weather long johns

39.99

1

 

 

3

B

#X-HW202

Tru-Spec BDU Boonie Hat hot weather

14.99

1

 

 

3

B

#X-JA291

waterproof parka and fleece liner system

128.9

1

 

 

3

B

#X-EB004

wool blend disaster blanket

9.99

2

 

 

3

B

#x-EW119

Goggles Mil-Std-662E V50, ANSI Z87.1-1999

19.99

1

 

 

3

A

NFG02

Nomex fire retardant aircrew gloves

24.99

1

 

 

3

B

#X-SH08

Tru-Spec BDU Shirt Mil-C-440048G

26.99

2

 

 

3

B

#X-RT075

Tru-Spec BDU Trousers Mil-C-44048G

26.99

2

 

 
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10/28/2012 11:41 PM
 

 I use effort , efficiency and reliability to guide gear choices. Effort usually equals weight, efficiency is usually well hydrated, enough calories, decent sleep, reliability is having two ways or more to accomplish things like water , fire, and even light. I have a small bag packed with most  of the fire, knife, water and light items, my sleep system almost always strts with a quilt and gets augmented depending on expected temps. For hunting, my kill kit is simple , some rope, tag, pen, etc. Food, always changes depending on length.  A couple insulation layers change and the tent changes depending on partners and terrain. For hunting , the pack is a big consideration. Other than that, it's pretty much grap some food, augment insulation if need be and go. I used to make detailed lists, I find this approach much easier. The most difficult time to plan IMO is the shoulder seasons. Winter , gators are a no brainier, but in shoulder seasons  those decisions are more difficult. I even have my gun system dialed now, finally. Gun, range finder, snipe pod with tripod adapter, and small spotter, small binos as an option if I know there is a lot of pressure / people.


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10/29/2012 9:56 AM
 

I basically keep a pack packed all the time for the given season, with the exception of food so if I need to head out it is  matter of adding food.  That being said I tend to think in groups of gear:

Sleeping: shelter, pad, ground cloth, bag pillow

Clothes: base and warmth layers (varies based on season)

Food

Cook kit and filtration

etc...

After each trip I clean and reprep gear (refilling fuel in the stove, clean socks, etc...). I also think about what was used on the trip and what wasn't, and what I wished I had.  As a result I can adjust my gear for the next trip when it is fresh in my mind.  I actually normally do this on the drive home. 

Shoulder season whether it be spring or fall is the hardest to plan for.  I have basically just gotten to the point where I have a summer load out and a winter load out.  I do adjust my sleeping bag choice based on what the forecast is (either 0 degree or 20 degree), but that is about it.  The exception is if a pulk is involved in which case I do carry some extra or heavier items (synmat 9 delux vs neoair tracker).


Co-Owner Hill People Gear "If anything goes wrong it will be a fight to the end, if your training is good enough, survival is there; if not nature claims its foreit." - Dougal Haston
 
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10/29/2012 11:47 AM
 

I think similarily to Scot in terms of what gear remains packed.  I always will have the core equipment at hand and always packed (fire, shelter, navigation, water, survival gear that incls medical gear) and simply add the correct type of clothing / sleeping system for the season.  This is my carry gear. 

I have one for my truck as well but generally leave it in the garage unless I am going farther than the city limits.  The truck always has food / water or water boiling vessels, candles, K woobie, shovel and tow strap.

 
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