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7/18/2017 4:38 AM
 

I was recently at the Warrior Expo East in Virginia Beach, and stopped by the Garmin booth.  I wanted to look at the improvements and changes made with the new inReach Explorer +.  The new model has a larger screen and more stand alone capability such as in-device map data.  Very nice, but not enough to make me want to upgrade from my current inReach Explorer (the older DeLorme version).  However, I also saw the new Garmin Foretrex 601 and 701.  Both are pretty dang impressive and either would fit nicely in a Kit Bag.  The 601 has a lot of improved features, seems more user-friendly, and has a higher level of accuracy, and the 701 also has Applied Ballistics tech in it for long range shooters.  Currently, I use my 401 more than just about any other for actual GPS navigation.  The 601 has a heckuva lot going for it at a price point that's not bad at all.  Might be upgrading to it in a month or two.  Figured I would pass along the info.

Here is a link describing the 601 and 701.

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/blog/fis...listic-edition/


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7/18/2017 8:06 AM
 
I'm still using a 101. I meant to upgrade to a 201, then a 301, then a 401. But I just don't use the 101 enough. Maybe the additional satellites on the 601 will be enough to prompt me. I could also never get the 101 working in concert with a laptop which presumably works much better in the 601.

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7/18/2017 8:23 AM
 

Not only more satellites, but also upgraded altimeter & barometer technology.  Also....way longer battery life.  Quite a bit of capability packed into a small unit.


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7/18/2017 8:42 AM
 
Time to upgrade
 
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7/18/2017 8:59 AM
 
Maybe a naive question, but aside from the ballistic technology of the 701 what advantage do you see these providing over an inReach?
 
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7/18/2017 11:47 AM
 
zacht wrote:
Maybe a naive question, but aside from the ballistic technology of the 701 what advantage do you see these providing over an inReach?
 
No...not naive....and that's something I should have clarified.  Neither the 601 nor the 701 provide anything over the inReach, with the distinct exception that the 701 has the ballistic tech built in to it.  The inReach provides much more, in addition to being a fully-functional GPS unit.  I guess I should explain how I use both of them.  I use my inReach primarily as a global messaging tool and for its SOS capabilities, and use it for its GPS capability in a secondary role.  I use my Foretrex 401 solely for its GPS capabilities...largely because it is so readily accessible in my Kit Bag, and I use a GPS mostly just to confirm what I should already know with regard to where I am, as long as I am practicing good terrain association techniques coupled with my compass azimuth and pacecount.  If I do eventually upgrade to a 601, that will provide me with a more accurate and user-friendly (bigger screen) version of my 401.  I don't see myself needing the 701, personally...I already have a Kestrel and already have my bullet dope worked out for my rifles.
 
Hope that helps to clear the mud!

 


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7/18/2017 12:00 PM
 
Thanks, that does help clear it up. I've got the inReach Explorer+ (Garmin version) so was really curious if there was something notable to be gained with 601. I appreciate the added clarification.
 
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7/18/2017 3:01 PM
 
Perhaps wrongly, I imagine the foretrex units to be more reliable than the base mapping units because they are simpler.

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7/19/2017 11:11 AM
 

Eavn, are you saying in comparison to the inReach mapping?  Not sure what you're comparing the Foretrex 601 mapping against.  On my current 401, there is no map data loaded onto it at all, but that hasn't been an issue for me because of how I previously described the way I use the device.


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7/19/2017 11:35 AM
 
I'm just talking about the foretrex compared to any fancier unit. It's a simpler system with fewer features and therefore fewer things to go wrong in the computer programming and electronics part of it. No data to support that, just an inherent distrust of fancy complex things.

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7/19/2017 11:42 AM
 
evanhill wrote:
I'm just talking about the foretrex compared to any fancier unit. It's a simpler system with fewer features and therefore fewer things to go wrong in the computer programming and electronics part of it. No data to support that, just an inherent distrust of fancy complex things.

 

Ah, yes...I agree.  I really don't need to use any map data on my 401, really.  That said, I have found that when I use my inReach paired with my iPhone overseas, the map data has been pretty doggone accurate and has helped, particularly when building routes or navigating in urbanesque 3rd World locales.  While talking with the Garmin reps at the Warrior Expo, they explained that even though Garmin now owns the inReach, it still uses DeLorme map data.  I think that's good, because DeLorme has been in the map making business since the 1920s and they have been spot-on for me thus far.


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7/29/2017 2:16 PM
 

Thanks as usual Ken!  I have been using my 401 for years and it has served me well with the strange exception of some type of parasitic battery drain.  Even using lithium batteries they eventually run low even with no use.  Otherwise it has been my go-to.  I have it on a lanyard with a Suunto M-9 compass, red squeeze light and 2 spare lithium AAA batteries. 

The ability to access GLONASS and Galileo data is big to me.  It should speed up positional acquisition as wells as provide a back up if Selective Availability is ever turned back on due to some type of national threat.


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