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1/8/2013 8:00 PM
 

pigmonkey wrote

Do you know what the Prairie Belt pricing will be?

 

Evan Hill posted in the stickied prairie belt thread that it was planned to be $95

 
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1/8/2013 8:11 PM
 

Chiral wrote

Evan Hill posted in the stickied prairie belt thread that it was planned to be $95

I had missed that. Thanks!

 
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1/9/2013 8:17 AM
 

Great video, I hope there are a few more to show the P-belt and maybe the other compression panels.

with the use of the "hypalon" along the vertical ridge of the pack, where the straps are anchored- does this reduce or eliminate the pack "bowing" into the users back when compressed tightly? This always happened on my K*faru internal frame packs and annoyed the hell out of me. Since the anchor points are not directly attatched to the frame seams, it appears this problem is fixed with the Ute.

 
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1/9/2013 12:13 PM
 

Thanks Wes, that means a lot coming from a guy who spends a lot of time under a pack.

Weight - it will carry as much as any internal frame will in as much comfort as any internal frame will. Where you draw that line is a combination of personal preference and whether or not you've ever experienced large load external frame Nirvhana.

JSonn - I've already shot the Prairie Belt video, but haven't edited it yet. The use of scalloped hypalon was indeed partially an attempt to control what I call "pack rounding". So was the shape of the bag and also the way that the compression system works. The framesheet helps too (~12" wide for the entire height of it). With the Ute pack rounding is mostly a non-issue, but I've observed that it is still possible in some circumstances to round it in a way that offends my aesthetic sensibilities, although not in a way that affects suspension comfort. More careful packing is the solution - with an internal. Can you guess what one of the biggest reasons I like an external is?


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1/9/2013 1:55 PM
 

Evan

It looks really well thought out and well executed. I like the addition of the water bottle carriers on the shoulder straps. I've used those often myself. The bedroll, is something I often do as well on my lighter packs using a dry sack. Good stuff.


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1/10/2013 6:47 AM
 

when carrying light loads without the belt attatched, would it be better to carry the weight on the central harness attatchment point, or to tighten the lifters and use them as a more conventional two-point attatchment harness ? does it make much difference? or are the load lifters not designed to support any weight.

do you know much later the foliage will be available after the two-tone? weeks/months?

looks like a great bag.

 
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1/10/2013 7:28 AM
 

It is all about how much shoulder articulation you want for your load. I adjust not based on weight, but based on activity. Hiking I have the lifters tighter than I do for say xc sking.  They work in essence just like regular lifters, but they also set articulation. 

Hopefully they will be available about the same time, but only time will tell. However, it should definitly be weeks or less.


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1/10/2013 8:12 AM
 

Marzi - I've carried the Ute on one hike with a light load without the belt. As you would guess, it rides lower than with a belt. I didn't vertically adjust the shoulder harness position but probably would play with it a bit if I was going to be carrying it that way for a while. Most likely I would adjust it lower than I do for hipbelt use. You do end up leaving the lifters fairly tight in that application. No such thing as shoulder articulation when the entire load is on the shoulders. Well -- you do have some articulation to the extent that you can move the entire load with your shoulders. That's true of any shoulder only pack though.


We are fortunate in this matter that your conduct will be your marker and, thus, your reputation. The conduct of others on this forum has been, and will continue to be, their marker, and thus, their reputation. In the west, a person invests in one's reputation carefully. - 112Papa
 
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1/13/2013 3:14 PM
 

Have you guys tried any type of "Long Pockets" on the side that would attach by way of the compression straps?

Would something like the MR ones work on the Ute you think?

http://www.mysteryranch.com/adventure/pack-accessories/long-pocket

First Spear are going to be busy methinks.


 

 
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1/14/2013 7:26 AM
 

adv wrote

Have you guys tried any type of "Long Pockets" on the side that would attach by way of the compression straps?


 

 

I like the Granite Gear pockets:

http://www.granitegearstore.com/Armored-Pocket-P49C5.aspx

 
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1/17/2013 7:42 PM
 

 sorry if this has already been mentioned somewhere, but what is the weight of the ute??

thanks

 
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1/18/2013 5:17 AM
 

Kalidor wrote

 sorry if this has already been mentioned somewhere, but what is the weight of the ute??

thanks

5llbs  including the belt with both sets of padding in

 
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1/19/2013 7:16 AM
 
ute 

 was frontante enough to meet up with scot and even while they were in town for shot, pictures/vids really dont do this pack justice extremely well thought out and will be worth the wait. its a really vestial pack and hopefully in time when funds permit ill be able to pick one up

 
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1/25/2013 9:21 AM
 

Just placed my order!!

 
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1/26/2013 11:46 AM
 

I saw the Ute was scheduled for delivery on Jan 30th, then it switched to Feb 5th- did the first run sell out that quick!? or has there been a snag?

 
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1/26/2013 11:50 AM
 

Check your email Jack!

When the shipment to us was being packaged yesterday, it was discovered that no V2 shoulder harnesses had been made to go with the Utes. So the V2 harnesses are in manufacturing already with a rush status, but that will still set things back by about a week. I already emailed everyone who ordered before I changed the delivery date giving them the choice of the earlier delivery date with a V1 harness or the new date with a V2 harness.


We are fortunate in this matter that your conduct will be your marker and, thus, your reputation. The conduct of others on this forum has been, and will continue to be, their marker, and thus, their reputation. In the west, a person invests in one's reputation carefully. - 112Papa
 
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1/26/2013 1:48 PM
 

Sorry, but I never got that e-mail memo. I'll definitely wait for the v2 harness though.

evanhill wrote
 

Check your email Jack!

When the shipment to us was being packaged yesterday, it was discovered that no V2 shoulder harnesses had been made to go with the Utes. So the V2 harnesses are in manufacturing already with a rush status, but that will still set things back by about a week. I already emailed everyone who ordered before I changed the delivery date giving them the choice of the earlier delivery date with a V1 harness or the new date with a V2 harness.

 
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1/28/2013 7:35 PM
 

 Likewise... Can wait. One question... Will the harness still be able to detach from the pack and work with the prairie belt as a sort of old school "h harness"?

 

 

 
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1/29/2013 1:32 PM
 

Jack, right you are. Looks like you ordered after I changed the delivery date so you didn't get the memo emailed to you. Good news though - the V2 harnesses are shipping out to us today. We should be filling all of our Ute orders by this Friday.

Snow-Ape - that's affirmative.


We are fortunate in this matter that your conduct will be your marker and, thus, your reputation. The conduct of others on this forum has been, and will continue to be, their marker, and thus, their reputation. In the west, a person invests in one's reputation carefully. - 112Papa
 
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1/30/2013 12:46 PM
 

Great news indeed. This project has been a long time coming, must feel pretty darn good for you two to see it come to life, especially when the Ute's officially roll in fresh from FS.

 
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