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1/18/2013 9:25 AM
 

 The SCAR -17 is the only .308 semi that I felt I wanted.  

They are all too damn heavy, but the SCAR is just right!

The SCAR is expensive and the mags can be a pain in the butt to find and expensive when you do, but that's the one.

 

The SCAR 16 is a nice weapon too, but I have a thing for the Steyr AUG, so what can I say.

Oh! Oh my!  Is that a IMI - Tavor? I like! 

 
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1/18/2013 9:38 AM
 

barefootafrican wroteThey are all too damn heavy, but the SCAR is just right!

Weight. 

Just an opinion, but to me, weight has become just another buzz point.  To a degree I "get it".  But (and I'm not picking you you barefootafrican) I think the obsession about weight has gotten ridiculous.  If a pound or two is going to make or break you, hmmm...... I'd suggest the gym.  Or perhaps a modification in the thought process.  There are trade offs in life.  When it comes to weight, no pun intended, but I weight those tradeoffs.  In other words, what increase in capability am I getting by carrying an extra pound or so?  Thats the real story.  Cutting weight for the sake of cutting weight at the sacrifice of capability...I don't know.  Like the dog chasing his tail, you'll never get there and when you do, it won't be what you think it is.

Just some thoughts...

 
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1/18/2013 3:10 PM
 

The SCAR brings something to the table that heretofore, did not exist.  A 308 rifle, with integral rails, that with a 1-4x optic, mount and loaded magazine, weighs less than an M1 Garand.  If you had actually fired one, you'd have been blown away by it's marked LACK of recoil.  There is no other 308 that handles as much like an M4 as a SCAR.

As for working out, it'll be 21-15-9 dumbell shoulder presses (50#), dips, pushups for time today and then and then a few sets of pullups after recovery.  I still like a light rifle.

 
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1/20/2013 2:54 PM
 

Mgi plans on finally releasing their 308 version of the MGI hydra it should weigh around 8 lbs and will use m14 mags. I have the conversion on order I have heard they expect them by march. They will retail for 1750.

https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=77&type=&category=10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgarz8vaMWE

I have had the hydra rifle for a few years now and like it quite a bit.

 

 
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2/5/2013 9:18 AM
 

Anyone have an opinion or get one of the new S&W M&P-10s? I have a chance to get one tomorrow at a good price ($1399) and am very tempted. Held one this morning and it's no Model 7, but it didn't feel that heavy. Spec'd weight is 7.71lbs and it takes PMAGs. Mid length, 1:10, 5R rifling. The gas block is screwed on which does raise an eyebrow but the reality is I wouldn't be running 800 rounds per day through this rifle. Ambi safety and mag release, the mag release at first glance seems well thought out. I'm thinking with a Larue mount and a 2x7  it would be around 8.5 lbs or so maybe 8.7lbs unloaded. Add a mag with 10 rounds in it and I still think weight wise it's the same as the RGS. Thoughts?

 

 
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2/5/2013 9:59 AM
 

They are new enough that you will probably be hard pressed to find someone with one. I can reach out if you want, but may not hear in time since it sounds like you need to know today.


Co-Owner Hill People Gear "If anything goes wrong it will be a fight to the end, if your training is good enough, survival is there; if not nature claims its foreit." - Dougal Haston
 
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2/5/2013 12:46 PM
 

Does anyone has any experiance with or know anything about the Christensen arms CA-10? It weighs right at 7 pounds but I assume the price is ridiculous. Not that I am interested in buying one, I have no need for a 308 auto. If I was though this would be one I would look hard at if its a good setup.

www.christensenarms.com/products/ca-10-recon/

 
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3/11/2013 4:35 PM
 

Can you fellas still get the Vepr brand over there ? Then it would be worth having a look at, basically a RPK thickness AK type Sporter with a scopemount that actually is worth its salt as it comes to AK clones, 5 and 10 shot magasines, hardcrome lined barrel etcetera.

www.artemis.as/images/Storelg%20vepr.jpg I`ll put up a link to large picture of a rifle and moose that a friend of mine took some years ago after shooting the moose. I`ve had mine for about 10 years now and have no plans to offload it.

 

Edited to add that I got the pleasure of fondeling some of the Christensen Arms goodness at IWA last year, very nice guns but somewhat steep in pricing. If I recall correctly they where talking about 4800 Euros or something along the lines of 6000 dollars for one.

 

 

 
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